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Nov 02 2021
Corinne McKay

ATA62: the return to in-person conferences

I recently returned from ATA62, the 62nd annual conference of the American Translators Association. Executive summary: it was fantastic, and I highly recommend attending in-person conferences if they are in your COVID comfort zone. The details:

Deciding whether to attend in person

We’re at a phase of the pandemic where people have different levels of comfort with in-person contact. I am pretty COVID-cautious in general, but as soon as I got vaccinated, I went back to interpreting in person in court and then in prison. I felt that if that was within my comfort zone, it didn’t make sense to miss out on the ATA conference. Additionally, I felt that the conference’s COVID protocols were robust. Proof of vaccination or a negative COVID test was required (and this was actually checked and recorded at registration). Masks were encouraged for everyone and required for those not vaccinated, and green/yellow/red wristbands to indicate your social proximity comfort level were provided.

I feel like all of these precautions worked well. Additionally, ATA offered a full virtual conference with all 120 sessions livestreamed and recorded. This meant that anyone who didn’t want to attend in person didn’t miss out on anything. Additionally, in-person attendees could watch the livestreamed sessions. I talked to several people who were tired, not feeling well, etc. and really appreciated being able to watch a session from their hotel room.

Is the dual format sustainable?

Lots of people wondered whether this dual format is sustainable. Typically, only a small number of sessions are recorded, and none are livestreamed. This year’s format required a full time a/v tech in every session room, for the entire day. At the ATA annual meeting, the ATA leadership’s consensus seemed to be that this year’s format was both expensive and necessary. The COVID situation is just too uncertain to yank the virtual option, and the in-person conference (around 400 people) was significantly smaller than a typical ATA conference, even for a smaller city like Minneapolis.

Will this format be repeated? Right now, no one really knows, because no one can predict what the COVID situation will be in another year. One ATA leader even commented that if the actual costs were reflected, the fully livestreamed option would cost more than attending in person, which I’m sure is true. I’m glad ATA offered that option this year, and I think it’s totally understandable if it’s not offered or has to be priced higher in the future.

The venue

The conference was held at the Hyatt Regency Minneapolis, right on the Nicollet Mall in the city center. I stayed at the conference hotel and enjoyed it very much. ATA really tried hard to offer the same level of food and beverage service as usual, in a COVID-safe environment, and I was impressed with how this worked out. There were no buffets, all food was individually served by the hotel staff from behind plexiglass partitions, and the food was excellent. It was really quite impressive to see how the hotel had adapted to the “new normal.”

Most people wore masks, and people did seem to notice when someone else was wearing a red wristband (no contact). Personally I felt quite safe at the conference and I felt like there was a good mix of in-person interaction while respecting the personal space of people who didn’t want to shake hands, hug, etc. Lots of restaurants in Minneapolis seem to have permanently closed due to the pandemic, but the places I ate were really good, and service was sufficient considering how hard it is to hire waitstaff right now.

Sessions

Sessions are the heart of the conference, and every session I attended was excellent. Conference organizer Madalena Sanchez Zampaulo gets a huge shout-out for basically organizing two conferences (in person and online), selecting excellent sessions, dealing with a lot of cancellations, and displaying an amazing level of adaptability. Some of these more “nimble” adaptations should, in my opinion, be maintained for future years. Gone is the glossy conference program (beautiful but wasteful), replaced with a one-page handout covering two days’ worth of sessions plus the special events schedule. I didn’t really miss the program at all, and I appreciated having just the one page to refer to.

I attended sessions on a variety of topics, with a focus on interpreting. I’m still translating just as much as ever, but I’m focusing most of my marketing and professional development on interpreting right now.

On Wednesday I taught an AST session on direct client marketing and I think it went well. Thursday I attended Eve Bodeux and Emily Safrin’s session on proofreading, and Athena Matilsky’s session on resources for interpreters in languages other than Spanish. Both of these were really well-prepared and packed with information. I find that the conference is often a good reminder of things I keep meaning to do but haven’t gotten around to. Eve and Emily talked a lot about PerfectIt, an editing tool I already own but don’t use enough, and Athena reminded me that I want to pair up with a French A interpreter to create some new resources that we could both use.

Friday I attended Judy Jenner’s session on interpreting price quotes for the new normal, then I skipped a couple of session blocks (doing what I tell everyone else not to do: working while at the conference!), and attended Ingrid Holm’s session on Google Ads. These were both very eye-opening because they’re topics I know a little bit about, but definitely not enough. Judy’s session got me thinking about items I want to add to my interpreting services agreements, and Ingrid’s session gave me some good ideas not only about online advertising, but about reworking some of the text-heavy pages on my website.

Saturday I’m proud to say that I attended a session in every single block: Jessie Liu and Rony Gao’s session on trilateral consecutive interpreting practice methods, Abigail Dahlberg’s session on translating sustainability reports, Céline Colvin’s session on interpreting for the U.S. Department of State, Ray Valido’s session on the vocabulary of diversity, and rounded it out with a session on remote simultaneous interpreting, by Ernest Nino-Murcia, Aimee Benavides, and Tamber Hilton. All of these were really interesting, and the presenters were so well-prepared. I really don’t think there were any lackluster sessions this year, plus there was the “wow” factor of seeing everyone in person again which added to the excitement.

Wrapping up

I personally cannot wait for COVID to truly be in the rear-view mirror, and I think it’s understandable that many people don’t yet want to attend a large, in-person event. I’m hoping that things will be more stable by the time of ATA63 in Los Angeles next October. All the same, it was wonderful to see so many dear colleagues and friends in person, and huge thanks and congratulations to the organizing team for the conference!

Written by Corinne McKay · Categorized: Uncategorized

Sep 28 2021
Corinne McKay

Income for quarters one through three

Fourth quarter is usually my highest-earning quarter of the year, but the pandemic has done weird things to all kinds of sectors, so I decided to run some calculations on my income for the first three quarters of 2021.

As a side note, I’m currently running a poll on Twitter: is posting one’s freelance income statistics a) tacky, b) helpful, or c) tacky but helpful. At the moment, “helpful” far outweighs the other two choices with almost 62% of the vote; 8% say “tacky,” and 29% “tacky but helpful.” So, with 90% of respondents finding it helpful in at least some way, here we go!

Personally, I don’t mind posting my income, because I am reluctant to take business advice from people who won’t, or don’t talk honestly about a) their rates, and b) their total income. If someone talks about a high per-word, hourly, or daily rate, I want to know how much work they have at those rates (i.e. are they charging a very high rate that very few clients are willing to pay?). And if someone talks about a high annual income, I want to know how much they charge incrementally, meaning how much they work (i.e. are they earning a high annual income mostly by working a lot?). So I feel like it’s important to be honest about those factors in my own business.

Between 2015 and 2019, I held steady at almost exactly US $100,000 in income. In 2020, I landed a couple of new clients (and specifically, for the record since I’m always promoting the virtues of direct clients, one of my good new clients is an agency!), and online courses exploded in the pandemic, so I made about $110K. This is my direct income, and doesn’t include income that Training for Translators makes, but that I then pay out to my instructors (so far this year, that is about US $55K).

Here’s what I made in the first three quarters of 2021:
-US $32K from direct clients
-US $12K from agencies
-US $7K from individuals
-US $2K from book royalties
-US $20K from classes that I teach
-US $15K (profit, not gross) from classes that other people teach for Training for Translators

Meaning that my total income for the first nine months of the year was US $88K, or about $9,700 a month, meaning that if the current pattern continues (which, with the ongoing pandemic situation, who really knows), I’ll make about US $117K this year.

Some trends: Translation work has continued to be strong. A couple of my clients are working on large, ongoing projects that will continue for several years at least. And as I mentioned above, for the first time in literally years, I landed two new agency clients that pay well and have a lot of work. Both of those have resulted in more than $6,000 of work each this year. An intermittent direct client who I hear from once every couple of years came back with a $6,000+ project, a new NGO direct client has sent several projects of around a thousand dollars each, and online courses have continued to be strong. Additionally, $7K from individuals isn’t nothing, considering that those projects are paid in advance and are very low stress. The $2K in book royalties is essentially passive income, since at this point I do virtually no marketing for my books (to be honest about it!).

One of my main goals from this point forward is to do more interpreting, and my goal within the next couple of years is to be divided around 50/50 between translation and interpreting. Income-wise, interpreting makes up a small slice of my income ($5K so far this year), partially because I was so busy with my Master’s in Conference Interpreting program that I didn’t have time to interpret. Even so, the interpreting trend is positive: in all of 2020 I made $6K from interpreting and I’m already at $5K this year, and this month will be the first month that I’ve made more than $1K from interpreting, partially due to a couple of jobs for local law firms and some half-day assignments for the local prison system (really interesting and hopefully the subject of a future blog post!).

All in all I’m happy with how 2021 is going, and I hope this data is useful to you in your own financial planning.

Written by Corinne McKay · Categorized: Uncategorized

Aug 27 2021
Corinne McKay

Is a graduate degree in translation or interpreting worthwhile?

Is it worthwhile to go to graduate school for translation or interpreting? Does it depend on whether you want to study translation, interpreting, or both? Does it depend on your location? Age? Language pair? Now that I’ve finished my conference interpreting Master’s degree, I thought I’d revisit this topic with some new information. For background, I had a Bachelor’s in French and English (from 1993; so long ago that only a paper version of my transcript exists!), and a Master’s in French Literature, but I did not have a T&I-specific graduate degree until this year, when I did the Glendon College/York University Master’s in Conference Interpreting program. More on that here, and here.

Most importantly, you’re not too old

Let’s get one factor out of the way. If your brain still works, you’re not too old. There goes one excuse! I started my MCI at age 48, and you can read this guest post by Joseph Welch, who went back to graduate school for translation at age 63. In my MCI program, I’m not sure there was anyone who entered the program directly from undergrad, and there were several people around my age and older. So, scratch age off the list.

Was it worth it for me?

For my purposes, absolutely, yes, doing the Glendon MCI was worth it, for the following reasons:

  • I think that conference interpreting is one of those areas where the degree makes a difference; it’s true that there are successful conference interpreters who don’t have an MCI, but I think it’s more the norm than it is in translation.
  • It’s also true that you could improve your interpreting skills a lot simply by practicing for hours and hours a day, as you are forced to do in an MCI program. But honestly, very few people have the time and discipline to do that. I’m a pretty disciplined person and I wouldn’t have been able to do that, plus you would get no feedback from someone who actually knows what they’re doing.
  • The Glendon program was pretty perfect for me. I wanted a practical (rather than theoretical) program, and all of the Glendon instructors are practicing interpreters, so it really fulfilled my personal goals. The pandemic offered the opportunity to do the program entirely online, and it was very affordable (around US $19,000) by US standards.
  • I felt that (and this is more about my own imposter syndrome than anything else, but it was a factor) I would never have the confidence to dive into the conference interpreting world without a full Master’s in conference interpreting. Again, this more about me than anything else, but I didn’t want to be looking for conference interpreting work and saying, “I have my court certification, then I took these other classes, then I did an internship.” I just wanted to be able to say, “I have my Master’s in Conference Interpreting from…”

What’s your “why”?

If you’re considering a T&I graduate degree, I think the first step is to ask yourself why you’re considering doing this, because it’s a big investment of time and money. Also, in my experience (which admittedly is not universal), T&I falls in a bit of a weird grey area where you generally pay the tuition yourself because there are not things like teaching assistantships or graduate stipends (unlike programs in the Humanities where you’re unlikely to be paying full freight yourself), but you aren’t going to have multiple six-figure job offers waiting for you when you graduate (unlike something like medical school, where it’s clearly worth taking student loans).

Glendon does their tuition in three payments, fall, winter, and spring, so I was able to just pay the tuition in cash by economizing on other expenses. Personal opinion, I did not want to do a program that involved student loans (I hate debt), and I believe that Glendon is the least expensive AIIC-endorsed program, at least in North America.

My “why” was pretty tangible: because I will never have the confidence to do this until/unless I dedicate myself to studying it for a whole year and pass a really hard set of exams proving that I can do this. For me, the path to an MCI was pretty clear.

However, I don’t know that the decision is that clear for everyone. I honestly don’t know that freelance translators with a T&I Master’s make more money than people without one, or are more in demand. I’m not saying that they don’t make more money or aren’t more in demand, but I don’t know that it’s a significant difference.

I also feel that T&I programs, by definition, are there to teach you to translate and/or interpret. That might seem obvious, but here’s what I mean: they don’t generally teach you to run a freelance business, which is a huge part of the equation. In my program at Glendon, we got some very good advice about the interpreting market, and we all did presentations about the interpreting market in our various regions of the world. This is probably more than many T&I programs include, and I think it’s still a long road to launching and running a successful freelance business if you’ve never done it before.

Realistically, there just aren’t that many options for people who live in North America and want to find an in-house job as a translator or interpreter. People with a Master’s from a reputable school probably have a leg up on the few in-house jobs that do exist, but it’s just not a realistic expectation that you will finish a T&I graduate degree and have multiple — or perhaps any — in-house job offers waiting for you. In my experience, most people who fail as freelance translators or interpreters do so not because of the language aspects of the work, but because they can’t force themselves to market aggressively enough to find good clients, or they can’t manage the clients they do find, or they just don’t have the discipline to be productive without a boss. And a T&I program is not going to help you with any of that.

All this to say, make sure you have a specific goal in mind before you select and apply to a program.

Consider all options

If you’re considering a T&I Master’s, make sure that you put all options on the table. Here’s where age, and perhaps more correctly, stage of life do enter into it. For me, “all options” meant the four AIIC-endorsed MCI programs in North America that offer French (MIIS, U. Maryland, U. Ottawa, and Glendon), because I am just not in a position to move to another country by myself, and I couldn’t find any international universities offering online programs.

However, if you’re in a more portable phase of life, I would definitely look at international programs, not least of all because your language skills will improve a lot from living in one of your source language countries. Programs outside the US tend to be a lot less expensive in terms of tuition, but this can be offset by the higher cost of living in a large city, particularly in Europe. This was my experience when I looked at the programs in Geneva and Paris: tuition, very affordable; cost of living in those cities, not so affordable.

What about online programs?

Having done a fully online program, I can say that a) of course I would have loved to be there in person, and b) the online program was a lot more doable financially and logistically. I think that’s probably true of any fully online program. Glendon has always done Year 1 of their program online, so they had the online course system very well organized. I wish we had been able to go interpret in the lab and theater that Glendon has, but that also would have added a layer of expense and logistics that I was glad not to have to deal with. Personally I felt that I got a lot out of the online program, but I also made a huge commitment to attending every class and practice session, interpreting for lots of live events at York University, etc. which made a big difference.

Readers, any other thoughts on T&I graduate programs?

Written by Corinne McKay · Categorized: Uncategorized

Aug 04 2021
Corinne McKay

Some work/life balance observations

Over the past year, I’ve gone through an interesting unscientific experiment in work/life balance: nine months in which almost every waking moment was consumed with work or school due to my conference interpreting graduate program, (during which I continued working part-time), and then two months of a pretty laid-back schedule while I waited for my interpreting exit exam results and took some vacation.

I live in Boulder, Colorado, sort of a work/life balance laboratory: we’re sometimes classified as both the best-educated small metro area in the US, and as the fittest city in the US. Whether you want to call that work/life balance or “work hard/play hard,” it makes for an interesting environment. When my family relocated here from Boston 18 years ago, I had to train myself to ask, “What are your interests?” or “What do you like to do in life?” as an icebreaker cocktail party question, rather than, “What do you do for work?” because many people are more defined by their non-work interests than by their careers.

Surviving a year with no work/life balance

During my grad school year, my sanity strategy was simply to accept the lack of balance and do what I could to cope with it. Most days I would arrive at my office in time for an 8 AM class (meaning I got up around 6:30), stay at the office for class and work until around 6 PM with maybe a 30 minute break in the middle of the day, then put in at least an hour of studying or working after dinner. I made a point of taking at least one full day a week off; on “screen-free Saturdays,” my husband and I went mountain biking, hiking, or skiing for most of the day. But I often put in three to five hours of school or work time on Sundays. I’d estimate that I probably allocated at least 55 hours to school and work in a typical week. Some coping strategies that really helped me:

  • Meditating. I’ve mediated for 10-15 minutes pretty much every weekday since December, and it’s made a huge difference in my ability to cope with stress.
  • Admitting defeat in certain areas. I like to eat real food for lunch, and I started out with an ambitious idea that on Sunday nights, I was going to make large batches of a couple of different dishes and then pre-pack my lunches for the week. Dream on! That happened maybe twice, and the other alternative was spending way too much money (since I paid my grad school tuition in cash and was working less) on eating out. So I compromised on prepared food. I became good friends with Tasty Bite pre-made curries and precooked rice, and I’m not sure I will ever be able to consume Madras Lentils without thinking back on my pandemic grad school year.
  • Giving myself total veg-out time. I’m not much of a veg-out person. I always say that one thing I’m terrible at is doing nothing. But this year, I found that sometimes I just needed to lay in our backyard hammock and listen to podcasts for three hours on a Sunday afternoon, or allocate part of the weekend as simply “recharge time” where I didn’t have any particular plans.

Now that I’m out the other side

A few observations from the other side of a year with pretty much no work/life balance. After I took my Master’s exams at the beginning of June, I forced myself to slow down significantly. After several months of doing interpreting practice multiple hours a day, I told myself that it was OK to take a break until I received my exam results (a month later). I also planned a two-week trip to Europe where the only work I did was to periodically check e-mail, so in total I had the better part of six weeks with very little stress. I did a bunch of translation work in June, but I haven’t worked in the evenings or on weekends since May, and I’ve been working more like 35 hours a week rather than 55. A few thoughts on that:

  • Particularly in the US, I just think that a lot of us are simply trying to put 10 pounds of flour in a five-pound bag, as my grandmother used to say. We think that the work/life balance problem is us: we have poor time management skills, we don’t plan ahead enough, we need too much downtime. When in reality, we’re just trying to do too much, and particularly trying to work too much.
  • You can’t do multiple things full-time and be good at all of them. You just can’t. Now that I’m also out the other side of parenting (of course “mom” will always be my favorite job, but now that my daughter is almost 19 and living on her own, the day-to-day work has slowed down a lot!), I can see that lots of freelancing parents are really asking, “How can I work 12 hours a day and still be there for every moment of my kids’ lives?” You can’t. You just simply cannot. And trying to do that is a recipe for exhaustion, feeling like a failure, and not doing a good job either at work or at home.
  • Sometimes the answer is simply to work less. By many measures, the US is the most overworked developed country in the world. I personally find that when “life” builds up, I start to feel stressed at work as well. The house is a mess, the laundry is overflowing, there’s no food in the fridge, the car needs an oil change, we need to get estimates on a new roof, etc. etc. etc. and all of a sudden I’m having a hard time concentrating at work. The answer, for me at least, is to take some time off work to manage those things so that they don’t get out of control in the first place, which means working less.
  • Weirdly enough, I think that one of the biggest keys to work/life balance as a freelancer is to be honest with yourself about how much you need to charge in order to meet your financial goals, then assertively market to clients who will pay those rates. One of the most common work/life balance laments I hear from freelancers is, “I know I’m burning out and I would love to work less, but I can’t afford to.” For many people in that category, I think that the problem is often one of two things: a) denial/lack of knowledge about how much they need to earn as a freelancer in order to meet their financial goals, or b) sticking with clients that don’t pay enough to meet their financial goals.

My pandemic grad school year taught me a couple of things: it’s possible to survive a defined period of time with very little work/life balance, and in order to get your work/life balance back, you probably don’t need to streamline, you just need to work less! Readers, any thoughts on this?

Written by Corinne McKay · Categorized: Uncategorized

Jul 09 2021
Corinne McKay

MCI: Done and dusted!

As I wrote about here, and here, my lemonade-out-of-lemons project during the pandemic was doing the Glendon College/York University Master of Conference Interpreting (MCI) program, which moved online this year. It was a huge challenge and a great opportunity (more on that below), and last week I got the exciting news that I passed the exit exams and am officially an MCI. I’m really glad I jumped on this chance, and it’s a relief to have finished the program and passed the exit exams…now I just have to decide what to do with the degree!

How second semester went

In the two posts I linked to above, I wrote about my first month, and then my first semester as an MCI student. At that time we had some hope that Canada would open up to international students and we’d be able to be on campus at Glendon for the January-April term, but COVID had other plans, so we remained online. Second semester included the same classes we took during first semester, interspersed with some really great intensive courses with Helen Campbell, Michelle Hof, and Andy Gillies, which added a lot to our experience. As in the first semester, we also had the opportunity to interpret for many live events at Glendon, including a lot of conferences and seminars for Black History Month. Otherwise, things were much the same as during the first half of the year: I kept working part time doing translation, teaching online courses, and doing a little court interpreting, but the workload was manageable because there still was not much else to do during COVID.

The exit exam process

Classes ended in mid-April, and then we had about six weeks to focus on preparing for our exit exams. These are high-stakes, because at Glendon, as in most AIIC-endorsed conference interpreting programs, you don’t get the degree until/unless you pass the exit exams, no matter how you’ve done in the classes. I did the degree in English (A) and French (B), so I had four exit exams: a six-minute consecutive and a 12-minute simultaneous in both directions. Although Glendon offers retake opportunities, my goal was to pass all four exams on the first try so that I could just get the degree and move on with actually finding conference interpreting work.

I do best with a lot of structure, so I developed a really simple practice routine and just set a goal of going through that routine every single day, knowing that if I aimed for seven days a week, I’d actually probably do six days. I got this tip from Athena Matilsky when I worked with her to prepare for the Colorado Court interpreter exam. My routine was:

  • Listen to French news (usually France 24 or France Culture) for around 15 minutes
  • Practice numbers on the website numerizer for around 15 minutes
  • Interpret one consecutive speech, alternating days between English and French
  • Interpret one simultaneous speech, alternating days between English and French

This took around an hour, and I found that removing the analysis paralysis of deciding what to practice was really helpful. Instead of focusing on the best or optimal practice for that day, I just did the same sequence of exercises over and over again. I also practiced with other students from my program so that we could give each other feedback, which was also very helpful.

Exit exam week

We took our exams from home, using a platform called GoReact. I liked GoReact a lot because it plays the source video and records you at the same time, so that you don’t have to worry about running multiple platforms. We were able to practice with GoReact a bunch of times so that we wouldn’t be stressed about how to operate it on exam day, which helped a lot. I decided to control absolutely everything I could control during exam week, because I wanted to feel that if I didn’t pass, it was purely because my skills weren’t up to the standard that the evaluation jury expected, not because I was underprepared or because I didn’t have my exam-taking environment set up properly. My husband had the opportunity to go out of town and I encouraged him to do that so that I would have the house to myself and be able to be on my own schedule, and the night before my first exam, I went to a two-hour yoga class with live harp music and went straight to bed when I got home. A few other tips that our instructors and fellow students gave me that really helped:

  • Make a checklist, so that you don’t sit down on exam day and realize that you don’t have a pen, or that your notebook is out of pages, or whatever. Include seemingly obvious things like getting a drink of water and going to the bathroom 10 minutes before the start time. This sounds really basic, but I wanted to set everything up with as little left to chance as possible and I knew I would be nervous on the day of the exam. Tip from fellow student Amélie Roy.
  • Rather than focusing on giving a Carnegie Hall performance on exam day (which you probably won’t do because you’ll be nervous), focus on using the prep period to improve your overall skill level, so that if you do, let’s say 75% of your best on exam day, it’s still good enough to pass.
  • Whatever happens on exam day, don’t stop once you’ve started a speech. If you have an internet glitch, or think it’s the wrong speech, or miss an entire sentence, or whatever, just keep going, because there’s still a chance you will pass, and if you stop in the middle of the speech, you will definitely fail.

My first set of exams was English into French (which was good for me, because it’s my harder direction and I got it over with first), then we had a rest day, then French into English. In the end I thought that the exam speeches were about what I expected: neither significantly easier nor significantly harder than I thought they would be. I felt very drained afterward, from the tension and anticipation, but I also felt that I had done a solid performance, and if I failed, there really was nothing to do except study more and try again.

But I passed! I was prepared to retake any exams that I had failed, but it’s also a relief to have successfully completed the program and be able to move on to looking for work. If anyone has questions about the Glendon program or about doing an MCI when you’re not 22 years old (I’m 49), just let me know in the comments. And if you too are harboring a big, crazy dream, go for it! It’s not too late, but someday it will be, and the time is going to pass anyway, so get going!

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